Rig it right!!

[Guest]

So many people rig their baited jigs on the wrong way, they look a lot more natural and the are easier to hook when the prongs are at the tail end. Only makes sence .

Try it you will be surprised.

Regards John

[badluck]

I always rig mine jigs with the tails on the spikes. This is the way predators attack thier pray. <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ink' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ink' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[supersquid]

Hi

all

Although I do agree with both of you and I have always baited my jigs tail end first, the theory that squid attack from behind is challenged

According to some pro's squid attack fish from the side and wrap their tenticles around the fish;s body just behind the head.

The theory of baiting jigs tail end first is so that there is enough clearance

for the squid to hook itself between the hooks and the bait

if you bait a jig head firts you will find that the head of the bait gets pushed into the jig lowering your chances of a better hookup, but I have found the old die hard squid fisho;s insisting that you should bait a jig head first and thats why alot of guys use double headed jigs. <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ink' />

And I still say baited jigs are the only way to fish for squid



Supersquid

[pw-squid]

Would you cut the caudal fin off first so that you had somewhere to begin inserting the jig spike along the spine? Or would you just shove it in through the skin at the tail wrist?



I'd never given much thought to this and always just put the spike into the mouth and run it along the spine and out at the tail wrist.

[Guest]

As a retired pro , and some one who relies on 400kg+ of squid per year for bait .Experience has proven that prongs at the tail will out fish the other option, the actual motion of hooking the squid with a sharp pull will work much better when the tentacles can slide over the scales and the squid dosnt get spiked by the baits spines. It all adds up.

The gills dont flare and on the drift the bait is swimming naturally and the prongs dont get blocked by the baits head.

JMHO.

Regards John

[aok47]

gday john,



i have been fishing with head towards the barbs cause thats how i was shown. However i have missed a couple of good clamari lately and in retrospect it was because there wasnt much clearance between barbs and bait, -> calamari doesnt get hooked properly <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ink' />



im twirling my bait around next time with the tail towards the barbs, i'll let everyone know how i go <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ink' />



AK

[Joe G]

Hi All,



John, I use your method on cast retrieve (off a peir), But when I just let a whiting hang off a float i put him head towards the barbs.



Why?



Because whiting burrow into the sand when they look for food.



Thats my 2 cents worth.



JOe.

[Guest]

Not a bad thought Joe

but as we keep our jigs off the bottom then I believe you nust make them look real.

try playing with positive or neutural bouyancy as well.

trim the leads on your artifficial jigs so they float and hold them down with an extended paternoster rig.less snags, less weed on the barbs .this also helps you feel the bottom without loosing your jig.

Regards John

[Guest]

The best way to rig them is to first scale the fish and make a slight cut near the head. This method only works if sitting it out under a float, as when attacked by a squid they attack the back of the head and the scales come off, so if a squid sees it it looks naturally dead, as they think another squid has killed it!

I always rig head at the spikes cause it is easier when it is frozen, but listening to you guys i might have to turn them around, as i quite often dont hook squid - i have reduced the size of the tommies i use now though, and it seems to lead to a better hook up rate!

Heading to the Bluff (Rosetta Head) in Victor Harbour South Australia saturday night, so ill come back to tell you how i went!

Cheers!

Nathan

[Guest]

We caught none, zilch, nothing!

[Guest]

Bombed them today, 2 of us bagged in 30 minutes.

Pink 3.5's and red bait decoys.

Regards John

[Guest]

John, what do you mean by "red bait decoys"?

Also, what areas do you mainly target squid?



marco

[Guest]

Marco, Red bait is a type of fish commonly found around the southern half of OZ. close to the shelf,

we scoop net them each season when chasing Bluefin tuna at Portland,

great snapper and gummy bait and deadly on squid.

They look like a frog mouth pilchard but have a red tail and their sides flash red when seen from below.

I fish from Queenscliff.

Regards John

[aok47]

g'day john,



You sound like someone "in-the-know", I appreciate you sharing the tips you have with us.

I'm waiting for the weather to fine up, i can only head out on the wekeends, so i can head down to queenscliffe with the boat and try a few new "techniques" <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ink' />



How would your average Joe get a hold of "red bait"? It doesn't sound like they get sold in the markets,...



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[Guest]

Oh ok John,

Are they simmilar to those red mullet or goaty fish you get around Queenscliff / Pt lonsdale or are they completely different things?

Whats the latest off Queenscliff Pt lonsdale at the moment?

Ur info is greatly appreciate dby all...

[Guest]

I have never seen red bait for sale so its get out to the shelf 25 miles off Portland and net a few!! <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' />

Marco they are not like red mullet at all but red mullet do work well!!!!



The swell is huge at the moment down here and has coloured the water , I would say it will take around 4 or more days to clear if we dont get another swell.



Shallow water is the go at present when its clear.

Regards John.

[Guest]

Thanks John,

So the swell is big at the moment?

Have you used these red mullet before??

Calamari will take anything when they are hungry i guess.

Would these be one of your preffered baits?



Does anybody know if there is any action at Flinders yet??



marco

[beakman]

when you use baited jigs do you put the head or tail near the spikes and why do you use it that way in particular



Beakman

[aok47]

Beakman, scroll to the top of this thread and start reading to find the answer to your question <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />



AK

[squidjigdotcom]

I personally prefer head down for a number of reasons. 1 - easier to bait the jig, 2 - It's weighted better with the head down, 3 - It just looks right!!



I think the main factor is to use a jig with appropriate sized hooks. Many of the jigs have such small hooks that they get burried by the bait.



These are the jigs I recommend.



Jon







[quote name='aok47' date='Jan 31 2005, 07:12 AM']Beakman, scroll to the top of this thread and start reading to find the answer to your question  <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />  <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />



AK

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