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Hi Jaz,
they do look different, i noticed the very long tentacles compared to their hoods. The only other small occies i see in the markets have very short and stubby tentacles. Maybe we should dig out their proper "common" names and use them next time <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' />
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19-02-2004, 02:19 AM
(This post was last modified: 20-02-2007, 11:54 AM by glen.)
Jazman,
Glad I could have been of some help. I highly recommend the book I mentioned "Australian Seafood Handbook -- an identification guide to domestic species". I have a copy that I refer to constantly. It's quite good if you happen to catch something that you are just not too sure what it is. Here's a link to the CSIRO site that talks about it..
[url="http://www.cmar.csiro.au/publications/books/index.html"]http://www.cmar.csiro.au/publications/books/index.html[/url]
[url="http://www.publish.csiro.au/pid/3554.htm"]http://www.publish.csiro.au/pid/3554.htm[/url]
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Thanks El Guapo, I followed that link, the book looks like a winner.....I have to admit that I'm a junkie for fish ID books, I have been looking for something like this for quite a while! I like it that they have a pic of the fish fillet along with the description, useful for exposing unscrupulous fishmongers!
I have had no luck finding the common name for those baby octopus aside from 'baby octopus' :blink: , but I did find out that all the ones you see on pizzas, at the market etc. are not a domestic product, they are trawled in Thailand and exported all over the world, and believe it or not this species is undescribed (no scientific name!) - if you get in quick you might be able to call it Octopusius elguapo <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
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It's quite ironic you mention being able to keep fishmongers honest. When I got this book one of the first things I picked up on at a couple of the Vic market fish mongers is that they regularly sell pink ling as rock ling. With the genuine rock ling getting a much better write up than pink ling in the CSIRO book with respect to eating qualities. The other one which was surprising was the number of very different species of fish that are sold as butter fish....john dory, mulloway, king fish and morwong but to name a few.
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I went floundering on saturday at chelsea. I picked a terrible day for it!
Waves were rolling in and the wind was about 15 knots and westerly (so head on!)
I thought, "well i am here now so why not have a shot".
Anyway my first disaster was trying to turn on my torch. I was having a hard time connecting the clips to the battery terminals so i dropped my spear in the water to free up my hands. Then when I finally got the torch running my spear had drifted off. Took me about 15 minutes to find it! It had drifted about 30 metres away and was hard to find in the waves.
Anyway, after that bad start i started fishing. I actually managed to catch 1 flounder which was a miracle in the conditions. It swam right up to me. That is why i saw it. I also saw 1 flathead and I caught 4 small garfish. There was lots of garfish about but I didn't have a net handy.
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Nice work Glen, I went out briefly on Saturday night too, only saw rays and banjos though (and octopus of course), and managed to sink my float.....twice!! That westerly wind killed it, too much swell and ripple to be much good.
I went fishing in my row boat earlier in the day and got 3 flathead, 4 pinkies and 5 whiting for 2 hours, not bad going.
Cheers
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Hi Jaz, I thought about asking you to come along but i thought no one was as crazy as me to go in those conditions. we are both mad! 
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hey guys..
i've never been floundering b4 and just want to know wat you need and where to go..
thanks pat.
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you need a float, a car battery, an underwater torch with a long handle to hold underwater, some chest waders, and a spear! i constructed my float out of a car tyre inner tube and a plactic wash tub jammed in the centre. works a treat.
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ahh yes i know wat your talking about. my mates dad has one for duck shooting.
thanks for the help.
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Hi guys, more flounder.......I got 2 flounder and 3 big flatties off Chelsea last night + 2 gars. Conditions were PERFECT except for the full moon but I still got fish so i guess that doesn't matter so much.
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hey jazman. well done
gotta get my ass into gear and start getting organised to go out floundering..
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30cm flounder nice?? We let them go in SA, ha ha ha!! As for flathead - we usually spear them around the 60-70cm size.........
I occasionally go floundering in the coorong in south australia. We went a few weeks ago and the biggest flounder we got wouldve been closer to 45cm........We also got 2 smaller ones.........a funny story with the big one coming........We also dab netted close to s dozen mullet - coorong mullet - one of the best tasting fish going around - trust me - 100% improvement on sea run mullet!!!!
Ok, the second flounder........
Well we started floundering but didnt take the net and we spotted heaps of mullet, but only saw 2 flounder, so when we went back to the car for a break and a beer, we decided to only take the net and concentrate on mullet. Wouldnt you believe it, we spotted this massive flounder.......We tried to work out how to net it, as i started saying ill go back and get the spear, but no, one of the blokes i was with jump on the damm thing and knocked it out!! So i was stuck bending over and picking it up - i got my arms all wet and it was freezing for the rest of the time........We also ended up getting lost. For those that dont know, the coorong is a shallow river - can get deep in sections but in the most part is is 2m and less..........well we ended up in about 1-1.5m of water and the wrong side of the river from our car, in the middle of the night with a torch short of batteries, so we had fun finding our way back, but eventually we did!!!
Cheers!
Nathan
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yeah everything is bigger in SA! bigger salmon, bigger squid....yeah rub it in thanks! lol
i haven't been floundering for a while. every time i had a chance it was too windy lately.
be about time we organised another trip!
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And glen - a few weeks isnt awhile, i went on my first trip close to two years ago and have only been that one time since............i enjoy it, but i prefer to feel the bites and hook the fish than spearing them.........
SA - the land of the bigger fish. The fish on the east, measure the least, but if you head west, you'll be bringing in the best!!
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I'm a bit torn at the moment between spearfishing/floundering and line fishing......I like that with line fishing you can't see what's nibbling at the other end, and it takes some skill to hook most fish, but I also love the visual aspect of spearfishing, where you see your prey, then spear it (or miss it, as the case may be!) <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ink' />
And willy, please stop posting about huge flounder/mulloway/salmon, all us Vics are getting jealous as hell!
Glen, another floundering trip would be timely......not sure what the forecast is for the weekend, maybe we'll make a decision on Friday?
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i probably can't go this weekend anyway so no dramas.
perhaps a trip to the pub would get people more excited? <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/beer_mug.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ink' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/beer_mug.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ink' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' />
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hey jazman my brother went fishing near aireys inlet on the boat and caught his mates dad caught a nice mulloway somehwere bwteen 25-30kg
pat.
p.s let me know if your gonna organise another big floundering trip i've never been and wanna go
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no worries pat. will try to give you a bit of warning. only problem organising these things is the wind can stuff things up. it really has to be quite calm and that is pretty rare (especially on the east side of the bay). :geek
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