Soft plastics and bibbed lures for squid

[glen]

Hi all,



I was wondering if anyone had tried to catch squids on soft plastics or bibbed diving lures? I think it should be possible to rig these lures up with the appropriate squid hooks to jag the attacking squid. Just have to figure out how to contruct them.



Any tips would be appreciated.



Cheers,



Glen :i :i

[Wes]

Hi Glen.



When I was fishing over a reef, I saw what appeared to be a red fish break the surface and hit some bait fish. So naturally I dropped a lure. I used a rattler in the shape of a fish with 2 sets of triple hooks hanging from its body.



I dropped this into the water and got stacks of "pulls" but no hook up. I suspected squid so I reeled the lure in slowly and an arrow squid followed it up to within 1 metre from the surface.



Switching to jigs brought immediate results.



My conclusion: if my rattler lure had spikes at the back, I would have caught squid as well as the possibility of couta or salmon.



Now that would be an interesting combination lure! <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol' />



Wes

[Guest]

I am sure I once saw a squid jig with a bib! I cannot remember where i saw it. But it was a professional jig and was not home made.



Good luck,



Ken <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[Guest]

A "bib" is the metal or plastic flat piece that is used to make minnow type lures dive. It sticks out at an angle from the chin area of the lure.

[glen]

Hey everyone, I found a picture of bibbed squid jigs on the following page.



[url="http://www.clubdelamar.org/calamar.htm"]http://www.clubdelamar.org/calamar.htm[/url]



Does anyone now how to speak spanish so we can ask these guys where the jigs are made?



Cheers,



Glen <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[glen]

Thanks Joe,



I have emailed the website owner to see if they can tell me who makes these bibbed jigs.



I have actually had a link to the Club del La Mar website for a couple of years but never paid much attention to it since the site was in Spanish. I tried a language translation today but there is no mention of who makes the jigs on the webpage.



Will let you know if I get a response.



Cheers,



Glen <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[glen]

Hi everyone, I have heard back from Vincente at Club del La Mar. He tell me the bibbed squid jigs are called "poteras" (in Spanish).

In Spain they are very commonly used for squid fishing.



Regards,



Glen <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[glen]

sorry, seems like "poteras" is just a general term for squid jigs in Spanish. <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[Guest]

Hi Fellas,



I did a fair bit of experimentation with making squid jigs that dive down and can be trolled like a lure over the past 15 yrs or so.



Some have been successful others not.



Here is what i have concluded with my forays:



Firstly its easy to set up a set of squid barbs on the back of any bibbed lure by drilling into the lure and supergluing in a shaft with the squid jags on it from a darpin jig (bait jig)



Secondly the action of the lure is fairly critical as they tend not to attack lures with fast wobbles but prefer a slow rolling action.



The bibbed squid jigs i have made will not outcatch a yo-zuri style prawn jig in nearly every situation. The bibbed jigs will however attract lots of squid at night casting them far out wide and bringing them back towards the pier lights where the yo-zuris are waiting for them.



I have tried cloth coverings on some of the bibbed lures and it definitely makes a difference because i think maybe the suckers on thier tentacles cant actually grip and the tentacles slide down to the barbs.



In all my experimenting i have found one bibbed lure that seems to work the best out of about 30 diff experiments. Yo-zuri Arc Minnow. It might be thats its got a flourescent body or it might be its lazy action, but it works well at times.



All up over the last 15 yrs experimenting with this concept i think i have caught about 60 squid on the bibbed lures and prolly ten times that on yo-zuri styles and maybe a hundred on baits.



I do however read on www.sportfish.com.au that one guy in particular catches squid quite often on soft placcys spinning fro bream in Sydney harbour. His nick there is DaveW if you wanna fire a question at him about the colours and styles that work for his squid on placcys.



I have found that using a line with the sinker at the bottom lightly bouncing the bottom with three jigs spaced over the bottom ten feet of line while drifting around after other fish to definitely be the most productive either day or night.



Another thing i have noticed is that red chemical light sticks will attract and get the squid attacking the jigs better at night than any other colour at all.



Have fun with your experiments guys and keep us posted on the results <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />)



Mangajack

[glen]

Thanks for the info mangajack and welcome to the board!



Tell us more about these red light sticks. Do you attach them to the jigs directly?



Cheers,



Glen <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[Guest]

Hi Glen,



Thanks for the welcome mate <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />



The red light sticks i put about 2 inches in front of the lure using the lil piece of clear plastic tubing supplied with them.



The red sticks are hard to come by but they are available. I get mine from an army disposal/camping shop usually.



mangajack.

[Guest]

As a further venture im currently butchering a Rio's prawn lure and fitting a tiny set of barbs on the tail of it.

They do not have neutral bouyancy so its gonna be a jig or retrieve style only.



Will let you know when it catches something.



mangajack.

[glen]

the Rio Prawn Lure should work well. I think it is important that the jig body is not hard.

I have used some wooden squid jigs lately and the squid do not like them!

the jig should either be soft rubber or cloth-covered i think.



best of luck





glen <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol' />

[glen]

Hi everyone,



I was just sent this very interesting link on how to make diving lures into squid jigs and troll them behind your boat. Only hassle is it is in Spanish so i only can learn from the pictures.



[url="http://pedromoral.eresmas.net/calamares.htm"]http://pedromoral.eresmas.net/calamares.htm[/url]



This will inspire a few people i am sure!



Glen <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':angry:' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':angry:' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blueboxbullet.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[MiSh]

damn those lures look good!

Why dont other companies make squid jigs like this.

I konw some guy who has made a prawn star shrimp into a jig but so far not much luck just the average number of squid. he says its too heavy so hes in the process of making it float better.

Will let you know the results

I made a soft plastic jig using one of those squidgy bait fish but so far not much luck i think i mangled it a bit too much cause its hard to atach the barbs. I had to drill a hole in the end of my skewer and feed the line through it. Its kind of hard to explain so ill post pictures as soon as i MAKE A GOOD ONE

[yevrah]

I found the previously mentioned website interesting, so seeing as I speak spanish i thought i'd share a quick translation.



Hey Glen, if you ask the site owner permission i could provide a full translation with pictures for your site.



--------------------------

Just a quick translation of

[url="http://pedromoral.eresmas.net/calamares.htm"]http://pedromoral.eresmas.net/calamares.htm[/url]



The first block of text (on the left) is talking about the locations of his favourite fishing spots. Discusses how the jig dives down and should be fished with short flexible rods. Goes on to mention that professional bought jigs have better color, movement, sound and other factors that make them better then the basic home made ones.





First picture the line drawing shows how the jigs are mounted . The labels on the drawings are as follows.

Muestra 1. Pala grande - Sample 1. Large bibbed

Muestra 2. Pala chico - Sample 1. Small bibbed





Quick translatoion of the second body of text on the top right

PROCESO DE MONTAJE : The mounting process

1st paragraph: Start of with a jig that you have already tested and swims well



2nd para: Remove the hooks with care



3rd para: Cut the metal keyhole at the end of the hig. Twist it until it comes out. This will be the spot where we will later drill



4th para: Cut the squid hook to an appropriate size needed to insert into the jig. About 2cm here.



5th para: Drill carefully the required 2cm or to the size you cut the squid hook.



6th para: Insert the squid hook with a few drops of a good glue



7th para: Be careful to place the hook on strate and without getting glue on your fingers



8th para: let dry for a few minutes



9th para: Here you have your finished jigs ready to go fishing







Bottom Picture titles translations

Abajo, junto a otras: below, next to some others

Todo lo que necesitamos para el montaje: All the required tool for the project







Finishes off with saying how easy it is and good luck fishing

[glen]

Hi Yevrah,



Thanks very much for the translation. I will see if the pedromoral people mind if i borrow their images.



Now one of us should actually try to make the jigs and see if they work! I hope that the squid jig hooks actually stay where we glue them. Also i hope the jigs do not splinter or crack when the hole at the back is drilled.



I have attached the original page as a web archive (created with internet explorer) just in case the original page disappears.



Thanks again,



Glen <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' />

[drift squid]

caught a southern calamari on a 80mm squidgies soft plastic in white lightning shad, over sand and weed in botany bay while fishing or flathead.

 

i jagged the jig head through one of the candles, my mate couldnt believe it he just shook his head in disbelief. it wasnt big, hood was about 14cm.

it was a first for me n probably a last but im glad it happened as i wondered about soft plastics on squid.

 

been thinking about adapting a set of prongs to the new zerek soft plastic prawn (the ones with the kevlar strip) there movement is so life like n moves much better than a squid jig.

[Breamtim]

I know Rapala, Shimano, luckycraft, and a few others make 'squid minnows'. They aren't too hard to find or expensive.