[quote name='glen' post='9462' date='Oct 8 2007, 08:32 PM']i noticed from the japanese jigging videos i have seen on youtube that they take the darting action very seriously!!! does it really help? i thought they might scare of the squid since the jerk the jig so violently!
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the videos were "handaegg" were good examples.[/quote]
yeah looks as though they love there darting action over there,
i guess might be something to try in australia all ya can do is give it a go if it doesnt work then back to your own way i guess
Certainly darting seems better suited to autumn fishing than spring. In autumn the squid are young, growing and have a voracious appetite. Darting attracts their attention. They won't touch the jig while its darting but if you keep line tension and let it fall they will grab it. The other thing is to let it sit on the bottom for 10 seconds or so and than use a light jerk to get it of the bottom and then dart 4 or 5 times. The jig disappearing from view switches on that hunting instinct and as soon as they find it again they strike. Or so the theory goes <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Anyway, I was darting away Saturday/Sunday and I got 6 to my mates 2 between them so I must have been doing something right <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BrCjadK04w&mode=related&search="]This video[/url] which I think has been posted, is a good demonstration. Though I would let it sink a bit more, even to the bottom, during the day and onle dart 4 or 5 times before sinking it for 5 to 10 seconds. By the way, I have this on DVD <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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i have no luck in catching squid <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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but i have luck caugth cuttlefish with yo-zuri squid jigs <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':th' />
so, i have a question, how can i caugth those **** squids?!
[quote name='squidsquid' post='9567' date='Nov 6 2007, 03:35 AM']i have no luck in catching squid <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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but i have luck caugth cuttlefish with yo-zuri squid jigs <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rod:' />
so, i have a question, how can i caugth those **** squids?![/quote]
The cuttles suggest that u are not moving the jig enough.However they are god baits 4 kingfish <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':th' />
[quote name='kingyfisher' post='9568' date='Nov 6 2007, 04:32 PM']The cuttles suggest that u are not moving the jig enough.However they are god baits 4 kingfish <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':th' />[/quote]
thanks! ( o and the cuttlefish are good for eat <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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[quote name='egi zed' post='9461' date='Oct 8 2007, 05:30 AM']Digging up an old threadI know but <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':angry:' />
The different makers also seem to suit different fishing styles. Mine is a high tempo active style so I want a darting jig. I have used Daiwa, Yamashita, Yo-zuri, Gan-craft, Fina, and a couple of bargin bin types. I think it comes down to personal preference. I have basicly settled on Daiwa and Yamashita, leaning towards Yamashita because they're cheaper. I like these 2 because the dart well and feel light in the water. Gan-Craft were expensive and Fina feel heavy and hard to dart. The cheapies just dont dart.
The idea of just dangling a jig off the pier just doesn't cut it over here. You have to cast out and make the jig live. Even if that means sitting it on the moment, it has to sit naturally.[/quote]
Egi Zed
This is a surprise to me! I'm new to squid fishing but here in the NE USA (Newport R.I.) and all I have ever seen people do for squid is to hang a jig off the side of the dock on a fishing line around lights.
Can you tell us more detail on casting for squid? Do you retrieve it slow or fast, jig it or what and how deep?. I think I'm going to take my kayak out this year to get away from the crowds and if I could get them casting I could cover a lot more area. Also, this may be a dumb question but how do you make it "dart"?
I saw in another post that some squid are more aggressive than others. I wonder if they'll all take a jig that is moving or will some only take one that is hanging still in the water.
Thanks for the help. I love catching squid and they're delicious!
Brad
[quote name='BradS' post='9638' date='Nov 30 2007, 03:16 AM']Egi Zed
This is a surprise to me! I'm new to squid fishing but here in the NE USA (Newport R.I.) and all I have ever seen people do for squid is to hang a jig off the side of the dock on a fishing line around lights.
Can you tell us more detail on casting for squid? Do you retrieve it slow or fast, jig it or what and how deep?. I think I'm going to take my kayak out this year to get away from the crowds and if I could get them casting I could cover a lot more area. Also, this may be a dumb question but how do you make it "dart"?
I saw in another post that some squid are more aggressive than others. I wonder if they'll all take a jig that is moving or will some only take one that is hanging still in the water.
Thanks for the help. I love catching squid and they're delicious!
Brad[/quote]
Well, first of all you need to use a rod and reel. Preferably a light rod because you need to jerk it a lot. Plus its best if its quite stiff because you want all of your action to go to the lure and not be wasted in the rod. I use a Daiwa EG83M. For the same reason, braid is better than nylon. I use a 10lb braid with a fluro leader. You don't need a leader but where I fish is usually rocky and it also helps to protect against ripping tentacles off.
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As for depth, if you fish during the day, you need to fish the bottom. Let the egi touch the bottom and then jerk it. With a little slack on the line, give it a short jerk to get the egi off the bottom and then follow it up quickly with a big jerk. Its hard to explain, but don't drag the egi. You want most of the energy to go into taking up the slack. When you feel the weight of the egi, stop, don't follow through. If you want to you can jerk again. I usually jerk 3 times and then let the egi fall, keeping tension on the line so I can feel if any squid touch. In the daytime however, you can let it free fall. Its more difficult to feel any touches but you can search more carefully. In the daytime it helps if you wear polaroids so you can see any line movement.
With darting, you kind of wind with the rod. Keep your reel hand stationary and jerk the rod more or les horizontaly and wind with your rod hand. It takes a bit of practice but it works well with young squid in autumn. It seems to work much better than a straight retrieve.
This [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp-edUEE1dg"]video here[/url] will give you an idea.
The main purpose of darting and jerking is to attract the squids attention, especially when they are not in close to the shore. They will usually strike during the fall or when the egi is on the bottom.
Everyone has their own style. Some days I out fish my mates other days they outfish me. The most important thing is to have line slack and use short sharp movements.
Good luck
Hi All,
I'm Chris from Malta, just got in this forum and really amazed with the maniacs there are around the world when it comes to squid fishing !!! At least I know I'm not alone !!!
Do you know any site from were I can buy Yamashita jigs ? It's improtant that they ship to Europe.
Thanks
Chris
Hi guys,
Just wanted to give my two cents worth of advice. Both my brother and myself use yozuri's. My brother uses the 4.0 green yozuri jig which was the best jig he had ever used when first learning to squid. Currently the best jig I am using is the yozuri egi slow sinking orange 3.5 jig. This is my best jig which my brother brought from japan a few years ago and no kidding you a squid was landed on the second cast. It is bright orange and has a very heavy darting action.
My brother recently brought back from Japan heaps of new jigs by Gancraft, Clicks, Tsuriken, Yamatake Egi, Harimitsu, Jingo and Fish league. He bought one of every brand he could find. Cannot wait to try them all! By the looks of things, I think a new favorite will come from this lot.
Just added a picture to show u guys what the Click jigs look like. Wish I have more time to take pictures of the other new jigs.
yozuri oita, in the blue i absolutely swear by them and the weight from2.5 to 3.5 depending on the winds
hey guys just new to the site been jigging for bout 3 years now and ive found i have had minimal luck with the cheap 2 doller no brand jigs and realy outraged in them. the yo zuri 16 dollar australia money shrimp look alike jig has had minimal luck with only catching 2 in 4 days of sorrento front beach and portsea pier. i was realy angry in this and brought a brand new jig called "PHENOMNA" this jig changes from orange to green to yellow wen in water and glare i caught 9 in 2 nites. i got 2 massive calamari 5 small calamari and 2 big 2.5kg cuttle fish it shows that the jig is worth the money. anyways thats my opinion have your say. By the way a great of catching squid off the pier is the alpha aussie squid pole i caught the 9 with it .
thanks Nathan
Found my favourite jigs selling cheap in Sydney (Fish Outta Water, in George st. opp. QVB) Yamashita ,EGI SUTTE DK 1.8 .Under $14 ! last time I found them they were over $20 !.The best ones are Yellow /Orange ,but I found a new colour Grey/silver which looks to me like a good imitation of a baitfish(Hardyheads) which should be usful when the bigger squid in Autumn tend to go more for fish than shrimp <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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[quote name='funna1' post='9827' date='Jan 29 2008, 04:02 PM']hey guys just new to the site been jigging for bout 3 years now and ive found i have had minimal luck with the cheap 2 doller no brand jigs and realy outraged in them. the yo zuri 16 dollar australia money shrimp look alike jig has had minimal luck with only catching 2 in 4 days of sorrento front beach and portsea pier. i was realy angry in this and brought a brand new jig called "PHENOMNA" this jig changes from orange to green to yellow wen in water and glare i caught 9 in 2 nites. i got 2 massive calamari 5 small calamari and 2 big 2.5kg cuttle fish it shows that the jig is worth the money. anyways thats my opinion have your say. By the way a great of catching squid off the pier is the alpha aussie squid pole i caught the 9 with it .
thanks Nathan[/quote]
Hi Nathan,
you are probably talking about the "pheromone skin" jigs made by yo-zuri? Killer jigs indeed, and i have some luck with them too <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Cheers,
Richard
Hi there, i think yo-zury its the best, i get some big squids with pink yo-zury jigs
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i got an laser yo-zury squuid jig, i don't no if theyr good, im gonna use them tonigth. <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ink' />
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Hi Jon - like you I have difficulty in finding the right jig here in Cornwall and also, I agree with your choice of the 'best' jig in type. Last night I found a fair few hits at Porthkerris near the Manacle Rocks (Falmouth) - Loligo forbesii I reckon - however, I was getting pulls then hauling half way up - then it goes slack and nothing attached. I was going around the bend as the first two squid that came inboard 10 minutes before were three pounds or so in weight; then I looked at the jigs and all the hooks had gone. The jigs were Zenax - to be avoided I think as I have just tried one using a pair of pliers on the hook and the hooks come out with just a slight tug, the same with the Martinetti 'Tiger Fish' they are all completely useless for me. The best so far (for me) are the Zebco Waterwings that I found at Newlyn a while ago, but I'm told they are no longer available there - any ideas? Even they fail by the top swivel breaking! We need a jig with a wire running right through and I've tried the commercial pear drop rigs but they're not much good, I have had a few squid on them, a few by using a Glowstick slipped into the body but nowhere near the same as the Waterwings. Cheers, Phil
[quote name='Jon' post='7858' date='Dec 24 2006, 12:48 PM']Hi,
My first guess after 10 days of solid jigging for squid in English channel (see link [url="http://www.squidfish.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1217)"]http://www.squidfish.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1217)[/url] would be that Yo-zuri might outfish Yamashita on one day and that the opposite might be true the following day. I would suggest the best way to be effective would be to carry an arsenal of jigs and dont let the squid become used to one particular type.
I use the above statement as an observation as it is difficult for me to compare brand for brand as supplies of squid jigs here in the uk are pretty poor but I have found far more success with fabric covered jags (particularly blue mackerel stripes over flourescent plastic body), than with any other I have tried recently, however if these are not effective a complete change of colour, shape and size can trigger a result.
The species I am attempting to target is Lolligo Vulgaris (very similar to "Chokka" squid in South Africa) wich seems to be a little fussier than the much more aggressive L. Forbesi or veined/flame squid we also catch here, this species will attack anything, often hard enough to completely negate an 8oz weight.
Carry on Jigging!!
Jon[/quote]
[quote name='Jazman' post='7948' date='Jan 12 2007, 03:29 PM']Nice one Jon <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol' /> <img src='http://www.squidfish.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol' />
I like yozuri shrimphunters - an awesome jig but expensive, and therefore scary to fish close to cover. The smaller yamashitas are great (especially when the squid are shy), but I find they sink very slowly - normally this is good, but if you're drifting quickly, or fishing in a strong current, you'll need to fish them with extra weight. My favorite jig for shy squid is a tiny Yamashita 1.6 in green - they only have one row of hooks, but nail finicky squid regularly for me.
Some other more pricey brands that I have great faith in are Hayabusa and Egi-Lee - but at $25+ a pop they are not for everyone.[/quote]
Which Colour of Yo-Zuri Shrimp Hunter is the best ?
Brown Colour, Reddish Colour or Pinky-Yellow ?
[url="http://www.myfishingfrenzy.com/eging.php"]http://www.myfishingfrenzy.com/eging.php[/url]
Look at the "Yo-Zuri Lures". Which Colour, among the Shrimp Hunter, should I use ?